Suicide

Question: suicide....? I am doing research for a suicidology assignment. The main subject of my project is..why is suicide so hard to prevent..now this is where i need y!a users help. If you have known anyone that committed suicide, did you notice that they go through a state of euphoric happiness before they died (almost as if they were couldn't wait for their pain to end etc.) if any of you could elaborate on that i would be so grateful. I appreciate all answer, thanks in advance

Answer: I was thinking about this in regards to myself.When I got the closest to suicide that I have ever been and crossed the line of thinking about and actually acting strongly on the thoughts and then deciding to do it. I did have a sense of tying up loose ends like I didnt want to have a messy house or clutter to be left to be cleaned up by others. To help with the pressure I was under I had given myself permission to keep going and going and if one last thing just was the absolute final straw I decided I would need to be ready. So my main noticable obsession was getting my environment ready and uncluttering my life. No euphoria just a kind of sense of calmness and sorting and tidying and preparing. When you do ask for help in a big crisis you deal with so many passing through medical people and therapists etc so you have bits of help and promises from one place and then a little bit somewhere else. Its generally with the best of intentions but there is only so much that they can do. When you see them hitting the wall of their reserves you think well if you cant do anything and Im asking you for help because I cant do anything then who can. Then the answer feels like no one. The help to prevent it is just a distracting noise in the background whilst you and you alone think your thoughts and do it or dont do it. All the time I was looking for little hooks and loop holes to give me reason to do it or not to do it. I think that means there might always be a little loop hole or a little light spot somewhere within the cycles of the blackness of it that means it is possible to help someone prevent themselves doing it. Ideally if someone can stay by your side and be strong and help you through it all and connect up all your worlds - therapy and home and physical health etc then maybe it is preventable. Not being treated as a patient but as a thinking person might help as well because then you dont go into a mode of having no voice about your own state and then you begin to diffuse the responsities for your own actions to others because the strongest part of you is being ignored and devalued.

Question: ::₪::₪::₪:: < SUICIDE > ::₪::₪::₪::? _______________________________________ ::₪:: have u ever tried committing suicide ? ::₪:: what was the reason ? ::₪:: how were u saved ? ::₪:: has anyone in ur family/friends committed suicide ?

Answer: ::₪:: have u ever tried committing suicide ? Thoughts came about it but never tried it. ::₪:: what was the reason ? Loneliness,no brother/sister to play with.I used to be alone in my house,so therefore such thoughts came into my mind. ::₪:: how were u saved ? My uncle,if he wasn't there I would have been more heart-broken. ::₪:: has anyone in ur family/friends committed suicide ? I don't remember any.

Question: What is the difference between suicide and sacrifice? Except for spelling!; Aren't these words about the same? Here are a few examples: A suicide bomber considers his/her decision as a sacrifice but we see it as a suicide. The RELIGIOUS Jesus died as a sacrifice but if we look at the HISTORIC Jesus, his actions were suicide(He was a real man without powers(?) to some historians). Those firemen and police officers who went into the Twin Towers knew it was suicide but we see their actions as a sacrifice.

Answer: in a way they are the same but in a way they are not...suicide is the fact that you are killing yourself for a reason truly unknown...sacrifice, you are giving yourself up for someone or something... you listed perfect examples but both of those words can be perceived in very different ways to different people i see the terrorists who hijacked those planes and crashed them into the towers as suicide...but now, if you ask Osama or any other terrorist, they will say that it was a sacrifice i see sacrifice as a person giving something or themselves up to help others...yes, jesus sacrificed himself as for the firemen and police officers on September 11th, i am sure almost every single one of them saw themselves perishing in the towers but not all did...police officers, firemen, military members all sacrifice their time and even lives sometimes for humanity AWESOME question by the way

Question: How does a suicide affect friends and family? More specifically, do the chances of someone committing suicide go up if a loved one committed suicide? How much? I would like specific facts and figures if possible if there is a professional out there. For clarification, I am not contemplating suicide. No one I know has commited suicide and this is not really a personal issue for me at the moment. I have an interest in phsychology and wasnt haveing any luck finding any specific figures based on studies and such. I assume since suicide is such a big issue, that there has to be some fairly easily findable solid info. Also, I am a writer and I have a story idea, but I like to collect a lot of solid background info beforehand. You know, have more knowledge then you actually plan to use. Please, anyone who may have done research on this for their job or for a thesis or something, I am very curious.

Answer: Social scientists talk about "suicide clusters" so even when something hits the news about suicide, - you'll see a percentage of people do it to themselves. That's why I'm against the 'right to die' campaigns that state nobody should make you live if you don't want to. ie. -like abortion we'll some day have "killing centers' where folks can walk (or roll) right in and be done away with.

Question: How about this? Suicide is selfish but not at the expense of others? I think that the motives to commit suicide are purely selfish, since they aren't ever done to the benefit of others but I don't think there is a good argument against the morality of suicide in calling it selfish. I don't think the fact that it's selfish makes it immoral. The emotional stress it causes is negligible, compared to the sacrifice the person him self made.

Answer: I think it depends on the basis of suicide. Yes, most claim it is selfish, b/c people claim that the victim (or the selfish) do not consider the feelings of others they're effecting. However, most suicides are done after great thought (not after an irrational night of drinking). I think they (who have committed suicide) said eventually one or two things. 1) F*ck it. It's not worth what I'm being put through. 2) It is selfish for one to mourn over the dead to begin with, because the mourner is only thinking of themselves. They're not thinking that the departed is in a better place. Death (back in the day) use to be a celebration. As far as it being immoral, I do not agree. For the reasoning above.

Question: What kind of legal investigations take place in response to a suicide? I am writing a book, and a character commits suicide in the presence of someone else. They are both minors. There was nothing the girl could do from stopping the suicide. A suicide note was left with the family. The girl testifies that it was suicide. Would the girl who witnessed it be a suspect of murder? How long would it take for police to confirm that it was in fact a suicide? How much would the witness be questioned? (Her record is clear). I just really need to make this realistic, so if anyone knows what exactly happens after something like this takes place in real life, please give me all the information you have. THANK YOU!

Answer: The vast majority of suicides (at least those I have investigated) are obvious. It depends on the method however. Pills less so, guns often very obvious. There are tell tale signs of a gun death, if it is suicide that would not be appropriate to discuss in this forum. There are so many ways that without further information on the method in your book it is hard to address.

Question: Why is suicide considered a mortal sin in Catholicism? I am curious about this. Why is suicide considered a mortal sin in Catholicism? What exactly does committing a mortal sin mean? Where does this concept originate from?

Answer: Absolutely. The 3 components of a mortal sin are: -grave matter -full knowledge -deliberate consent Suicide is certainly a grave matter. It is the killing of oneself. Suicide goes against the human natural law of love of life. One who commits suicide of course has full knowledge of their actions: they are taking their own life! forever! One who commits suicide does it out of their own free will. If a life is taken by any means in which the victim is murdered against his free will, it is a homicide. So, to answer your question... yes. The act of killing oneself is indeed a mortal sin, punishable by eternal separation from the Lord. It is even specified in the Ten Commandments.

Question: Can suicide be another option in life like resigning from your job? Do people really concern for others? What are your unsaid benefits when opposing suicide? Have you ever thought of suicide? Why not make the decision to suicide when strong? What are the benefits and losses in suicide? How can a laymen suicide without physical pain and without assist? Are we trapped in law and faith? Are correct questions be asked to find an unbiased view of suicide? Thanks guys for your quick responses. Really appreciate your opinions. With regard to your answers, why would someone decide to suicide if there's no benefit? Normally, we always condemn suicides as a weakness. Why not plan a suicide as an exit strategy, without hatred or revenge? Anyone born will die. Why not plan ahead? Let me explain what I meant by ‘unsaid benefits’: You expect popularity, respect, trust, or a help in return when helping others, though you don’t say them in public. Also, you help others, because their existences benefit you, and not because you genuinely care for them (willing to scarifies your self for them). Please be honest. lol !

Answer: Yes, people generally care about other people. What are your unsaid benefits when opposing suicide? what? Sorry this question hurts my tiny brain. Have you ever thought of suicide? Yes. but I am still here so, I never carried it out. ;]. Why not make the decision to suicide when strong? Because there are people who care about me and you, If you're trying to get revenge on people who hate you, it doesn't work because they win, and you only hurt those who surround you and care about you. And to think that you are hurting someone else, just so you don't have to deal with the crap life throws at you, is to me, selfish. Also this stems to my religious beliefs. I believe that life is all we have and so when we die, there is nothing, no hell, no heaven, no Nirvana, no nothing. So to me... If I kill myself that is the ultimate ending. there will be no tomorrow for me. And everything I have worked for will have been pointless. What are the benefits and losses in suicide? Benefits? I honestly believe there are none. I believe any of the so called "benefits" which one could get from suicide can be gotten from somewhere else. I believe you can fix most problems in your life if you try, so people hate you, your job sucks, your wife divorced ect. ect. ect. these are temporary problems, not to be fixed with a permanent solution. Losses? Most importantly a valuable person in society is lost.and the the family and the friends suffer horrendously. How can a laymen suicide without physical pain and without assist? Honestly I do not know if a painless death exists as I have never died, and anyone who has, has not comeback and told me if it was painless or not. Are we trapped in law and faith? Somewhat, yes. Are correct questions be asked to find an unbiased view of suicide? I do not know. Honestly, I hope you are not thinking about killing yourself :|,

Question: Why is the suicide rate high among those who work in the postal service? Why is the suicide rate high among those who work in the postal service? I heard that those who work in the postal service, such as the postal office or delivering mail, have a high suicidal tendency. Why is this?

Answer: I have worked for them for over 22 yrs and haven't heard of any s. Yes the job is stressful, but what well paying job isn't.

Question: What are your thoughts on assisted suicide? I am doing a paper in my Ethics class on Euthanasia and assisted suicide, I want to take a poll on what various people think. Are you for the doctor assisted suicide or against it and why, what are your thoughts? I need as many opinions as I can, so I can add them in my term paper, Thanks!

Answer: I'm in favor of it as long it is clearly spelled out under which circumstances the assisted suicide is to be carried out. And that is the root of problem - there are so many different potential life outcomes in which assisted suicide might be appropriate, but in most of those cases, the person who might want to commit suicide is unable to participate in the decision, due to being unconscious or unable to communicate. The result is that someone might make a laundry list of possible life issues (conscious vs. unconscious; mobile vs. immobile; terminally ill. life expectancy 3 months or not; capable of unassisted breathing or not; capable of unassisted feeding or not; bowel control or not; etc. ad nauseam). The inevitably likely result is that the individual winds up with some combination of the attributes that is not on the list and it is up to the "executor" as it were to make the hard decision. If you want a humorous take on this, take a look at the Seinfeld season 8 episode 13 "The Comeback" in which Kramer is filling out a living will and wants Elaine to carry out his wishes because he believes she won't cave in.