Therapeutic Abortion

Question: Therapeutic abortion? Did anyone visit to "Women's health care services,P.A" at Wichita, Kansas. How much will it cost for "third trimester termination" With regards, by tomorrow, i would know how much will it cost by calling the clinic. I thought someone can tell me today. I am not whether the suggested hospital is under PPO or not as well. IF not, what option will I have ? Is it a life threatenig for the mother ? PLEASE help ama_nicol, Pls. note that we LOVE baby. This decision is hard. Doctors told us about all the complications after 24 weeks and said that the possibility of survival is less. Tell me what else can we do ?. It is a hard decision. We didn't sleep since we made that decision. I am not arguing what I did is correct here.

Answer: If your health is truly threatened by the continuance of this pregnancy a cesarean section is almost always safer than a third trimester abortion. The baby can be delivered and the proceedure completed in about 45 minutes.

Question: Question About Therapeutic Abortion? I know that a lot of pro-life advocates would say that all abortion is wrong, under all circumstances and there is no such thing as "therapeutic abortion". I have a question though - why do all abortions get lumped into the same category? I work in health care, and every so often run into someone who had to have an abortion because either the life of the mother, or child, or both, was in danger. I know a lot of people might say the woman should not have become pregnant, but sometimes they find out about a major health problem after becoming pregnant. Why are women in this category with women who did it for personal reasons? Would you still consider someone on chemo or radiation or who might not live the full nine months it takes for a baby to be born to have had a "choice"?

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Question: Does the Catholic Church oppose only elective abortion or therapeutic abortion as well...? That is to say when there are compelling medical reasons wherein the gestation jeopardizes the health of the mother, the fetus is determined to have anomalies incompatible with life on ultrasound, e.g. anencephaly, selectively reduce multifetal gestations when it's medically clear that doing otherwise will result in stillbirth of all the babies? This is a genuine question and isn't intended as some sort of silly matter. If you're familiar with the Catholic Church's policies as they pertain to elective vs. therapeutic abortion I would greatly appreciate some clarification. Thank you in advance.

Answer: <<Does the Catholic Church oppose only elective abortion or therapeutic abortion as well...?>> The Catholic Church vehemently opposes all abortions. <<That is to say when there are compelling medical reasons wherein the gestation jeopardizes the health of the mother,>> Nonsense. Such complications happen late enough in the pregnancy where the unborn can be surgically removed from the mother's womb and placed in an incubator, thus leaving mother and baby perfectly safe. <<the fetus is determined to have anomalies incompatible with life on ultrasound, e.g. anencephaly, selectively reduce multifetal gestations when it's medically clear that doing otherwise will result in stillbirth of all the babies?>> Irrelevant. The purpose of abortion is to end the life of the unborn while it is still in the womb. A stillborn child is already dead, thus making abortion a totally irrelevant option, <<This is a genuine question and isn't intended as some sort of silly matter.>> This is a genuine answer: There are no circumstances in which abortion can be considered the morally proper alternative. <<If you're familiar with the Catholic Church's policies as they pertain to elective vs. therapeutic abortion I would greatly appreciate some clarification.>> The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches: 2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law: You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish. God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes. 2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae," "by the very commission of the offense," and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society. 2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life. 2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being. Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, "if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence."

Question: what is a therapeutic abortion?

Answer: An abortion that women don't get jail time for. Murderers who walk around free and babysit your children are someone to be worried about.

Question: Do You Want to End Abortion? OK. Here is a condition that I, as a pro-choice liberal, can accept: Therapeutic abortion can be outlawed, BUT, if the child is either put up for adoption OR if the father misses even one child support payment he must, by law, by force if needed, be immediately and permanently surgically castrated. If you want to stop abortion, let men pay a price comensurate to that paid by women. I'll go for that. How about you?

Answer: Add the following provision: All anti-abortion churches will be taxed to provide schools, hospitals, jail cells, etc. for all of the unwanted children born as a result.

Question: I need someone to revise my rough draft on abortion, an easy 10 points. Help? Cider House Rules is a great movie, that takes places during the mid-1940. IT presents the good and bad sides of abortion, as well as the hard decisions that people need to make. In the Cider House Rules movie, abortion is portrayed both in a good way and in a bad way. Dr. Wilbur Larch sees abortion as a way to help woman, and children. He helps women by allowing them to terminal their pregnancies, without anyone knowing about it. He also believes he is helping the children, by not allowing them to go through the hardship of living in an orphanage. Homer Wells is an orphan, who is very much liked by Dr. Wilbur. Dr. Wilbur teaches him how to perform the abortion, and how to take care of the women after the abortion is performed. Homer is not like Dr. Wilbur, he does not believe that abortion is something that should be allowed, and never wants to help out during the procedures. In this movie, we see abortion as a medical procedure, and the recovery after it is a stay in the hospital for a couple of days, and some bleeding. Abortion that an American woman experiences now a day is quite different. Women living in America in the article “Types of Abortion Procedures�, in the twentieth century, have many different options when it comes to abortion. There is elective abortion, which is an abortion initiated by the person, and there is also therapeutic abortion which is initiated by the health professional. Both of these abortions are choices, which an individual has to make. Once they make this decision, the doctor will decide, and tell the individual about the options they have in choosing the procedure. According to the “Types of Abortion Procedures� article, abortion, can be done through different procedures, there is six mains ones. The one that is most often used is the RU-486, it is a pill given to the mother after she misses her period, and it can be used up to the second month of pregnancy. After the abortion is complete the women will than pass the fetus . Another procedure that is used is the suction-aspiration; this method consists of a hollow tub with a knife-like edge into the uterus and cuts the fetus into pieces. They then cut the placenta and suck everything into a bottle. A similar procedure to the suction-aspiration is the IPAS-Syringe. It is referred to as the quiet procedure, and it is used during the first five weeks of pregnancy. It is the same as the suction-aspiration, but instead of a vacuum the doctor uses a handheld syringe as the suction. As we get further into the pregnancy and the suction procedures can’t be used anymore, there is a Dilate and Evacuate procedure, which is performed from the 13th week to the 24th week, and it requires a two to three day stay at the clinic. During the first day the doctor numbs the cervix and inserts dilators, the next day the cervix is once again numbed and the cervix dilators are removed. The doctor uses special instruments to remove the uterus and end the pregnancy. The final step is suction by using the aspiration machine. During the first and second trimester, the woman has an option of having a general anesthesia, which will put her to sleep and allow her to have no memory of the events. If a woman decides not to have a general anesthesia, she can choose from local anesthesia, comfort sleep as well as conscious sedation, to make her more comfortable during the procedure. (“Types of Abortion Procedures�). According to the Abortion History by Jone Johnson Lewis, abortion laws in the United States first appeared around the 1820’s, and they forbid abortion after the fourth month of pregnancy. Even though abortion was illegal, women still were seeking it, anywhere they could find it. By 1965, all the states have banned abortion, with some exceptions. Just like in the movie Cider House Rules, women were seeking illegal abortions, and some doctors preformed it. Unfortunately sometimes the women were in bad luck, and the abortion was not performed the right way. On January 22nd, 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision changed the interpretation of abortion law, and made abortion legal in the United States. “The Roe v. Wade decision held that a woman, with her doctor, could choose abortion in earlier months of pregnancy without restriction, and with restrictions in later months, based on the right to privacy� (Lewis). This was one of the biggest abortion cases, and the earliest ones in the United States. This case changed the way people looked at abortion, and gave women the right to choose between having one and not having one. It also gave women a safe legal way to have an abortion, without having to look into illegal ways to end the pregnancy. This decision was celebrated by some, but others were not very happy. It was during this time that the “pro-life� and pro-choice� names started appearing. Some people who opposed abortion have turned to very violent ways of showing it. Some of them blocked of access to abortion clinics (Lewis).

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Question: Pregnancy after abortion...? 2 months ago I had a THERAPEUTIC abortion due to illness that was harmful to myself and the baby. (It was NOT an elective abortion - and I did not have a choice, or I would have kept it as I WANT a baby!) So! My question is, when is it safe to try to get pregnant again after an abortion?

Answer: As soon as you have a normal period again, since its been two months i would say it is fine to start trying again, but some people say to wait until your periods become regular. Maybe ask your doctor? But good luck to you, that must have been horrible!

Question: Do you want a a complete ban or a partial ban on abortion or none? I am curious if people who are anti-abortion want an entire ban on abortion (including therapeutic abortions, cases of rape and incest) or a partial ban that would make exceptions for those. Or do you want none because you worry about rights? I am asking this after watching the report "Blood, Church and State" where in Nicaragua, there has been a complete ban put on abortion including on therapeutic ones that have led to deaths. If you are interested you can watch them: http://youtube.com/watch?v=E-arqiqGIZ4&f… http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ff3mdgl1AqE&f… http://youtube.com/watch?v=j1Mbti9nkqU&f… Thanks I ask this in RS because in the case of Nicaragua, religion played an immense role in enacting that ban and pro-life movements in the west tend to be religiously based often Belziah: Have you seen the videos I posted? Just curious

Answer: None. It's not like banning it would stop it from happening, if you want an abortion, you're going to get it one way or another, and making it illegal would lead to many more deaths from botched abortion attempts. That's why I'm pro-choice.

Question: Fever and bad pain after abortion? (for medical reasons it was necessary to have one done so dont judge). i had a therapeutic abortion on thursday afternoon, and after throwing up 7 times afterwards i was feeling great, the nausea disappeared almost immediately and i was able to walk around and do everyday normal activities once again (i couldnt get out of bed for 4 weeks during the pregnancy). around 7pm last night i developed a fever and it lasted upto 10 hours, and didnt go away after taking 2 tylenols either. and the pain isnt just cramping- i cant stretch my stomach at all, i have to move in little baby steps, ive been in bed since 2 am last night because i cant get up, even sitting up is hurting- its very painful, as though im being pierced with knives, i feel like its an open wound and every movement just makes it worse and unbearable, and its constant- it doesnt go away. and the headaches are absolutely horrid as well, the fever is on and off and stays for upto 6 hours at a time. is this normal ??? thanks for the help- i did go to emerg then they did another surgery- they left stuff behind and it was an infection.

Answer: Glad you got every thing taken care of. I was going to say it sounded like you had an infection. As with any surgery, infection is always a risk. I'm surprised that after the procedure they didn't give you some kind of anitbiotics. Hmmm. Like I said, I'm glad it all got taken care of and you're back to normal.

Question: What could be the ripple effects for US women if abortions are banned? Could this happen to US women too? Why? A recent ban on all abortions is putting women's lives at risk in Nicaragua, where doctors are now unwilling to attend to some obstetric emergencies and women are too afraid to seek help, doctors and a U.S. human rights group said Tuesday. The country’s blanket ban on abortions was imposed one year ago. The ban includes "therapeutic abortions" (abortions meant to save a woman’s life or health) and has no exceptions for rape or incest. The ban has not only discouraged women from seeking abortions but has also had a ripple effect on basic obstetric and gynecological care. Many women are no longer seeking medical help for pregnancy-related complications for fear that they will be accused of inducing an abortion. "Nicaraguan doctors are now afraid of going to trial or jail and losing their license," Dr. Leonel Arguello, president of the Nicaraguan Society of General Medicine, told The Associated Press. "Many are thinking that instead of taking the risk, it is better to let a woman die." Nicaragua's abortion ban putting women's lives at risk, US rights group says: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/0… Actually, the recent US Supreme Court ruling concerning choice is already affecting US women's health and lives: http://www.msmagazine.com/summer2007/blo…

Answer: Of course this could happen in the US people have been trying to over turn Roe v Wade since it was declared legal for the whole country in 1973. All these people are thinking about is the lack of White babies there are for adoptions. It was after the 1973 Supreme Court Decision that there developed a shortage of white children for those who were unable to have their own. That's when people started going over seas and adopting children out side of their race. If most people were really interested in saving the lives of these children than why don't they each take on of the parents who is having an abortion and offer to adopt the child so that they won't have to live in a foster home or with parents who are either two young or unable to take care of them?? If you go to one of these " Right to life " rally and ask the people there how many of them have adopted some of these children of these women whom their telling don't have an abortion raise the child or put it up for adoption. There aren't that many if any at all who are adoptive parents. Because it's not minority babies that they want saved from abortion it's white babies. If the Supreme Court Desion ever gets over turned you will see an increase of white children with in the US but not minorites. This whole abortion thing is about increasing the amount of white babies avalible not saving the lives or babies.